James and David Pick on Matt

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How is it your laptop, you know?

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What gave you that idea?

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Matt, I don't.

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I don't know it's a I don't know it's a brand new one.

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I have it just cause I'm in the office now.

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Should we? It's.

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You held something up to your mouth.

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Was that a microphone?

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What was that?

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Yeah, yeah, it's what I.

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Have for being in the office.

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Hold OK, hold.

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It hold it closer to your mouth, alright.

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Alright, like this Oh my God that's.

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So much better you did it, there you go.

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Yeah, yeah, I'll just have to hold it.

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Yes, now you don't have to yell.

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You can just speak normally.

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OK, nice yeah, that's that's do you not see what people don't know?

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But we record on Zen Caster and we actually have a video feed that we can see each other.

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So like I pointed and then David came in like like on cue as brilliant just came.

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In there.

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But what you notice is David and I.

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We are literally just swallowing our microphones.

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We are so close.

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For microphones at any.

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Give a moment and that's what makes it sounds good because, well, here's here's the difference.

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He was here.

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Your microphones are on arms, right?

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This microphone is literally on my arm where I have to hold it.

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Now it's like I'm doing myself.

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Yeah, yeah you are pretty good.

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Yeah, you can turn down the gain a.

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Little bit on it too, right?

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Let's see, let's see if I can figure it out.

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We're doing this.

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I'll turn on.

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This is line.

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The attitude turn on the game.

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Yeah, nailed it perfect, sorry everybody.

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There you go.

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Alright, great perfect.

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For this we only had 45 minutes before the podcast to let Matt know that his microphone was terrible, but I actually didn't know it was sitting there. I thought you were using.

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Like your Bluetooth headphone.

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No, I was using the microphone the whole time, so it was working great until we actually started this.

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Yeah, about right.

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Yeah, now you you can get one of those you know arms and then just put.

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It on there.

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Would be good, but here's the thing.

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I'm losing this office then.

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I'm currently in.

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This is my last time here in this office, so I won't ever use this microphone again, yeah?

00:02:35 David

Is that is that why there's nothing decorating?

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Your walls.

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That's why it's completely.

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Oh wait, it's always been like.

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That it's always been like that, but it's even.

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Yeah, it's.

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Oh my goodness, that's all I can say.

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Are you getting another office or are you just gonna work from home forever?

00:02:48 Matt

Well, we have another office.

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One of those open floor plans though, so like there's 20 people in one room and we obviously can't.

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Do a podcast.

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And that type.

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Of card I guess yeah I can just yeah Yep so yeah would be the last time I'm doing the podcast from Microsoft campus unless we do it down in Dev REL studios.

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Be quiet for an hour.

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The old Channel 9 which I guess we could.

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So they got a.

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They got a good setup.

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They have like this road, remixer recorded a podcast live there, Me and Matt together.

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It was fantastic.

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Would have been much better than what he's got going on with that MIC right now.

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Literally literally they.

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No anything.

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They might even have.

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An arm.

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Maybe I should hold from my right arm my left arm.

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It's just I'm gonna have.

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Do we title?

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To switch it's.

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Gonna it's gonna get tired but.

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If we title these podcasts, this would be the one in which James and David pick on Matt.

00:03:43 David

Well, I don't know if you know this, but we're shipping thing.

00:03:49 James

Ship it Segway.

00:03:49 David

There's my segue.

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Here's my segue.

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So we we shipped a a new version of Visual Studio for Mac with a beautiful Maui support at the end of last year, and we have been shipping service releases every month since, and something that I love hearing from.

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Customers that I talked to I probably talked to I don't know at least 5/6 customers a week in calls.

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And then of course all the interactions via e-mail and Twitter and whatnot is that I keep hearing people say things like hey, every release is getting better.

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I was gonna talk to you on this call about this issue I was having, but turns out I updated .net Maui in Visual Studio and it works now. It's like sweet.

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Turns out this whole shipping quickly thing works, so that was cool. So really that's kind of where we're at with .net Maui right now.

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Is shipping service releases. We do have some work underway in preparation for .net 8 Preview, One which will be coming.

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Out somewhat imminently, I think in a in a few weeks ish time, and really our focus there is going to be on improving.

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You know the overall installation experience and upgrade experience, so I we've heard loud and clear from folks that not everything needs to be a workload.

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In the.net installer, we would prefer to be able to have nugets to be able to validate pull requests quickly and go back and forth, upgrade and downgrade between versions have multiple projects on different versions of .net Maui within.

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In the same .net release. So I say go back to to nugget packages if you don't know what I'm talking about.

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Xamarin forms and Xamarin shipped primarily as Nugent packages on top of installers.

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So you always had to install Android and iOS via some installer, usually in Visual Studio.

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So I think that would be nice. We'll need to get that out there in the previews and get everybody's feedback on that. If that doesn't alleviate some of the friction that workloads introduced.

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And then primarily it's bug fix, bug fix, bug fix, and let's keep incrementally improving the performance and we do have a few desktop things that we're looking at doing in .net 8, but once we have those plans locked in, then we'll we'll publish some information about that.

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That's kind of my whirlwind. Welcome to 2023 January edition of the .net Maui update.

00:06:32 James

Yeah, we got a lot more goodness because there's stuff in the official SDK, but stuff happening outside of the official SDK as well, which I'm pretty excited about.

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We'll talk about that in a little bit, but yeah, there's more than.

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Just DS or Mac, isn't there, Matt?

00:06:46 Matt

Well, there sure is.

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There's Visual Studio for Windows, but they're still on the same numbering, right?

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They're 17th floor and 17.5 preview 3, but since we last did the show, I think there's Preview 3 and Preview Preview 4.

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That's out now, but.

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I want to talk about the previews and there's a couple of.

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Productivity updates to them that are actually pretty cool.

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The ones that I like the best is.

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I think they're calling it sticky scroll.

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And that's actually it's super neat.

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So let's say you have a bunch of nested if statements.

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About what what's going on here?

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I said oxymoron.

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What smooth sticky scroll, sticky, scrolling, scrolling, hang?

00:07:25 Matt

On you're right, you're right. But let's say David, so you're writing a. You're writing some C# code and you have a huge amount of nested.

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Of statements and there's within a for statement, right?

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OK.

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So what a sticky scroll is gonna do is that it's gonna stick your if statements to the top.

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That way you can see exactly where you are within them.

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OK.

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OK, all right.

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Yeah, so it's kind of like race highlighting except the whole thing sticks to.

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I can dig that.

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That hop, which is I don't know.

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It's kind of neat to see it happen.

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This has been 17-5 preview only on Windows. Or is this on Windows and Mac?

00:07:58 Matt

I'm only talking Windows right now.

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I'm not talking OK Mac.

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Yeah, only windows and there is markdown.

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Finally in Visual Studio I used to always go to VS code to write my markdown, and now I can do that in visual.

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Video it seems like a small thing, but actually it's a big thing.

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Kind of keep you all in one spot, which you know is really neat.

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And then there's spell checking too, which is actually super cool.

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Now this spell checking what I really.

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Like about it.

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Is that it'll even like it'll do like you.

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Have your camel casing.

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So I would type out James Montemagno all one word you know, capital J Capital M.

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It picks up on that.

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So even though it's all one word, it knows that it's James space montemagno it doesn't flag it as a misspelling.

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Assuming I add that to my custom dictionary, which you can do that too.

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So yeah, you can do and it figures out like.

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I think if you put like dashes in there and everything else.

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So yeah, just some cool productivity things that you can put in there.

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Really like to spell checking, but that's sticky scroll the oxymoron.

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Come on, David, that's that's my favorite so.

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I almost wanted you said something about it.

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You know you can do your markdown now in Visual Studio so you can stay all in one place.

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It's like stick sticks you in one place.

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We got the in there.

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Very sticky release.

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Really sticky and you can do your spell checking your sticky and your markdown, can you?

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All in Visual Studio.

00:09:20 James

Yeah, and I will say it also brings in Xcode 4.214 dot two support in there. That's fun.

00:09:28 James

I just upgraded to 14.1 so time to install 14 that too now I use an application. I think we talked on the podcast before, but I did a video on X codes. Everyone used X codes, fantastic.

00:09:35 David

Yeah, ex code. It's yeah.

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Now, do you use the GUI on it or you use the?

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CLI Ohhh GUI ohh day.

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I'm a good guy.

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OK, I had the gooey.

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I'm sticky, sticky, gooey.

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And then I.

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My machine and then I couldn't find the gooey, so I've been CLI.

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Ohhh no, I just download it from their GitHub so it's it's a great application you download from GitHub.

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You authenticate with your Apple developer account and it's the fastest way to install Xcode it installs.

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Way faster than selling from the store and you can make it the default as well, which is like.

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You can also do the terminal.

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What I've been doing is.

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But since it's not no longer like the default X code like it's, it'll say like the X code 14.1 dot app or whatever in Visual Studio on Windows, I'll go in and I'll manually added enter that in the tools options just to make sure, cuz I'm bad at command line. That's why I use the GUI. So there's a way to.

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Set the X code path and override stuff, but I'm just not great at stuff but X codes.

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That's that's the jam.

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In general, the sticky jam.

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Sticky Jam jam is sticky.

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Sticky, no doubt about it.

00:10:45 James

There we go now talk talking about stuff that's absolutely delightful.

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The Community toolkit folks all have come up with a new Nugent package.

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The community toolkit dot Maui dot media element nugget package.

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It's a separate one because it's got a bunch of dependencies.

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On it, but this puppy, here is the evolution of the media element from the Xamarin Community toolkit.

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But then, retool and reengineer to play audio and video across I OS, Android, Mac, Windows and Tizen, all of them boom, all of.

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On it it's super easy.

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You can just add on to the builder, use the Maui Community Toolkit media element.

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You add a media element. You give it a source that starts going MP4MP3 all this good stuff.

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Gerald's got a blog post on the blog that'll be out. We'll put it in the show notes and he has a video as well.

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And his YouTube outlining it as well.

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It's great because it's thumbnail is him giving a a good James face.

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I called the James face, you know mouth open wow with him.

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With the video playing on the phone, it's very clever.

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Gerald good, good on you and it does live video too.

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That's kind of cool too.

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All sorts of good stuff.

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It's a good request and we are going to work.

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Gerald and I are going to work on putting it into.

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The podcast app.

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So boom, that would be good to go, so that'll be fun in general.

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That means we can also add video podcasts as well, which is just.

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YouTube basically, but.

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It's gonna say is that is that a thing?

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You know what I mean?

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OK.

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You know well.

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Basically anything that has an RSS feed.

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So like the channel 9 stuff or whatever, yeah anyways so media element go grab it, go start playing audio and video.

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That's been the big.

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I'm hoping they do.

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I don't know they gotta do next something but meet elements out there.

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It's good to go talk about the podcast app.

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I did a blog on the podcast app.

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And yeah, I did it last year.

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I know I was on there for January but.

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I guess we haven't done a.

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Podcast in a while since, yeah.

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Amber, Ohhh well I did a blog on the .net blog about the podcast app which we released at dot.

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Net comp 2021, but was updated for .net comp 2022. Have a bunch of new.net.

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7 features.

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And the podcast app also was.net mauianda.net Maui Blazer app all also updated to .net.

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7 showing off all sorts of new cool stuff.

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In.net seven and net Maui, so we've streamlined it into a few simple commands to get it up and running, but we are soon going to Azure Dev. CL ify it there's a pull request on that too. But give that blog.

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A look if you're looking to grab a cool thing for dot MI.

00:13:34 Matt

Yeah, what I like, what you guys do with that.

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He put Orleans and there he made it nice distributed you have the yeah super easy to deploy and when you do the Azure Dev CLI for folks who haven't used the dev CLI yet, it's a command line tool James.

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I know how you like that.

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But all you would need to deploy everything change just gave a big thumb just thumbs down.

00:13:53 James

Well, I mean the Azure Dev CLI. I love CLI's in general right? Right thumbs down, right?

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But you need.

00:13:59 Matt

But all you need to deploy all your Azure resources, not even deploy your Azure resources, provision it, deploy all the code you just would have to type AZD up and everything.

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That's you can handle that for CLI James that has to be a.

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Thumbs up so.

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Thumbs up from James.

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So yeah, looking forward to that. And like you said, everything's in net.

00:14:21 Matt

Seven, so that's

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Great too.

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You know what you?

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Mentioned the Community toolkit previously.

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James for the net Molly one.

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The net community toolkit as the.

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New release too that's.

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Pretty cool, and now there is one feature in there that I was like.

00:14:34 Matt

You introduced me to the net community toolkit.

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I think back when we had the.

00:14:38 Matt

Maui workshop when you came up with that earlier this year and the one thing that's super cool about that that I like, was the observable.

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Properties for that, and in order to get observable property, you just define a variable and put an attribute above that variable observable property, and then when it goes through and compiles, it doesn't weave.

00:14:58 Matt

What is it?

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What is?

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It doing to give you the.

00:15:00 David

Code, Jen.

00:15:02 Matt

Code generation and.

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You get a partial class.

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You have to find your classes partial and you get a property out of it that does essentially MVVM.

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But the problem is, if you want that property to have other attributes to it, how do you do it?

00:15:21 James

I don't know how do you.

00:15:21 Matt

Good question.

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Do it.

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Yeah, now you can now with the latest upgrade you update you.

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Can they have additional?

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Actually, additional attributes you can apply to the observable property 2.

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Put additional attributes for when it actually generates the property so that that's kind of neat and what else do we have?

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Or is more more code analyzers in there to give?

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If something doesn't like, you're not.

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If you're referring to a variable or a field instead of the property, it'll warn you telling you're doing it wrong, stuff like.

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That so yeah.

00:15:58 Matt

Nice useful update with the .net community toolkit as well.

00:16:03 James

I love.

00:16:04 David

It I think it's it's, you know, the Maui Community toolkit in particular for me. I love the markup extensions for giving you better C# UI and then this MVVM piece of the .net community toolkit. They're essentials for me. I just like they go into.

00:16:23 David

Every template that I start for the most part and they.

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Make they make it so you're writing less code, but they also provide that nice fluent structure for the code you are writing.

00:16:37 David

I love it. Part of every app. I was disappointed when I was on the airplane two days ago and I could not get my new kit restore, but I almost bought the Wi-Fi.

00:16:49 David

On the airplane, just to get my Nugent restore, turns out as soon as I tried to hit the PayPal button they were like, hey, we're landing.

00:16:57 David

Put your seats and tray tables blah blah blah and I was like, uh, save me 8.

00:17:01 David

Dollars alright, OK, well I guess I'll wait.

00:17:04 David

But yeah, those are essentials in every app I'm building.

00:17:06 David

I don't know how anybody would build an app without them, they're just awesome.

00:17:11 James

Yeah, and to the point.

00:17:12 James

The messaging center in Donahue was deprecated down at 7 and the preferred messenger is the one that's built into the MVVM toolkit and they actually added a new API in this one too, and I observable messenger extension, so this is actually really neat, so you can just say messenger.

00:17:29 James

Create observable where you observe a message.

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You can have where clauses, and then you can subscribe to it.

00:17:34 James

This is the reactive type.

00:17:36 James

Programming this one makes sense to me.

00:17:38 James

You know, you know, I know.

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The reactive and reactive extensions folks stonis Michael Stonis MVP has been trying to get me on the reactive train.

00:17:49 James

This this makes sense to me.

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I think here where I can easily subscribe to different notifications and things coming and that's really neat.

00:17:55 James

And of course tons of.

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Other optimizations too and talk about MVVM.

00:18:00 James

What have I told you that win forms just got MVVM support?

00:18:04 David

I deny it.

00:18:05 David

I don't think it's true I I can't imagine.

00:18:08 James

It's true, it's in there and down at 7 because clause just did an amazing one and this isn't done and valuated. Or is it because the H1 header says say goodbye to code?

00:18:17 James

Behind Winforms meets MVVM and.

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Net Maui.

00:18:21 James

What imagine a scenario where you have a winforms app.

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I have one I have plenty of them everyone to hear everyone listen to.

00:18:30 James

This podcast has one imagine you could start architecting your code going forward in an MVVM way with models and view models and all of that MVVM community toolkit goodness.

00:18:42 James

And then all that data binding commanding that I'll just worked.

00:18:47 James

Inside of your win forms apps, mind blown, you put that in a little .net 7 class library and then what if you just shared that with the .net Maui app and now you got an iOS and Android and a Mac App? Boom, you gotta build a UI obviously, but you can reuse all that MVVM goodness. It's amazing.

00:19:04 James

It's been great.

00:19:05 James

So cool.

00:19:05 David

No, it is.

00:19:06 James

And then there's an example.

00:19:07 David

That that is awesome.

00:19:09 David

I you know one of the things that comes up very often when talking to customers is hey, I've got a winforms app, but I also have this web app and then I also have this mobile app.

00:19:21 David

And how do we share more code and this gives.

00:19:25 David

This gives you another opportunity to do that.

00:19:28 David

For in the way that makes the most sense for what you're existing, you know I don't necessarily want to call it legacy, but you're existing.

00:19:35 David

Technical investments are sometimes it's WPF and and a great glue for all of these things.

00:19:42 David

For UI in particular is blazer hybrid because you can embed blazer hybrid in your winforms in your WPF.

00:19:48 David

And of course it works in a in a Maui hybrid app, so this is cool to see just another way.

00:19:55 David

Another beautiful way to share more code.

00:19:58 James

Good stuff, it is good stuff.

00:20:02 James

I love it well.

00:20:05 James

You wanna get into some latest Azure news.

00:20:08 Matt

Sure, let's do it.

00:20:09 Matt

James, did you know that there's a new Azure developers YouTube channel?

00:20:13 James

What get out of town?

00:20:15 Matt

No, there is totally I'm gonna put that link in the show notes to it, but it's YouTube slash at symbol Azure developers.

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I think that's what it is.

00:20:22 Matt

But anyways, it's going to be all the latest and greatest.

00:20:27 Matt

Azure development stuff just kind of like we do for.

00:20:29 Matt

The.net.

00:20:30 Matt

YouTube Channel, but focused on Azure development.

00:20:33 Matt

There's gonna be a ton ton of .net stuff on there, but focus on Azure development. So yeah, when did you kick that off? James? This was a couple of months old. Right now. It's kind of brand new.

00:20:43 James

I didn't do anything, I just I click join and leave mostly all day.

00:20:49 James

On teams, and that's usually what I do, but no, this is this is really cool. This is if you go to the.net YouTube, right?

00:20:56 James

One really cool thing is that the product group it's called PG's product groups. This is the groups that build the product.

00:21:01 James

Dave is Dave's on a product group. I'm on, uh, I guess I.

00:21:04 James

Don't create product community as a product.

00:21:08 James

The product groups offer net they do the community stand.

00:21:12 James

Oops, right Dave.

00:21:13 James

And Maddie you see see them every single month.

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Talk about the latest and greatest.

00:21:16 James

The hotness coming out and the Azure PM and engineers.

00:21:21 James

They wanted to kind of replicate some of that goodness, so we're talking Azure Dev CLI.

00:21:26 James

We're talking container apps, talking app service, logic apps.

00:21:29 James

We're talking container apps, we're talking.

00:21:32 James

Functions all those.

00:21:33 James

Things that's all come into the Azure developers channel on both Twitch and YouTube, and there's an Instagram and TikTok and all that good stuff going on.

00:21:43 James

And then beyond that kind of talking about some feature videos.

00:21:47 James

What's new here and there?

00:21:48 James

So I think we're kind.

00:21:49 James

Of I would.

00:21:50 James

Say that the the team all of us together we're soft launching this thing, kind of.

00:21:54 James

At the beginning of the year, I would say there's that we trickled out some videos, did some stuff, but feeling good if you want to, you know, talk to the teams behind the Azure products that you're using every single day.

00:22:05 James

That's where you go.

00:22:06 James

Boom, we'll put.

00:22:07 James

The show notes we're about to start to do some sweet events too, so I'm really excited about that.

00:22:12 James

There's all sorts of events all the time, like the one you're about to talk to, but get ready.

00:22:15 James

For even more events.

00:22:17 Matt

Nice, Yep and the one I'm about to talk to is Azure Cosmos DB Conf which is gonna be kind of in the I guess in the spirit of net conf.

00:22:28 Matt

But for all Azure Cosmos DB.

00:22:30 Matt

So it's gonna be you know what this is actually gonna be in March, but the call for papers is ending soon.

00:22:37 Matt

So if you want to talk at Azure, it's a community event.

00:22:41 Matt

So if you wanna speak there, I'll put the link for the CFP in the show.

00:22:47 Matt

And get it in.

00:22:48 Matt

All right, I'll do the quick Azure service.

00:22:50 Matt

Of the month.

00:22:51 Matt

Azure open AI.

00:22:52 Matt

It's out there.

00:22:52 Matt

You want to do your own, build your own.

00:22:54 Matt

Chat GPT, you can do it, you can do it.

00:22:55 David

I do actually I do.

00:22:58 David

Here's my idea.

00:22:59 David

I'll just share this idea and then somebody can build it and tell me that it's available and I'll use it.

00:22:59 James

Right?

00:23:04 David

You know how on airplanes?

00:23:07 David

Because I almost spent eight $8.00 to to Google, something I just want to be able to proxy through the free messaging service that you have on every freaking airline.

00:23:18 David

You get a free service you can message right?

00:23:20 David

Like I just want to send a message, a text message, whatever to an AI bot and be like, hey?

00:23:28 David

How do I write such and such function or whatever and have it just spit back at me some?

00:23:32 David

Code or or give me an answer right? That's all I want. I don't need to actually sign up for $8.00 of Wi-Fi to just to Google that.

00:23:41 David

So that's my idea.

00:23:43 David

Proxy me through a messaging service to an AI bot that will answer my question.

00:23:48 David

All it needs to do is give me texts right?

00:23:51 David

Doesn't that sound brilliant?

00:23:53 James

I love it.

00:23:55 David

I don't.

00:23:55 David

I'm not convinced you do love it.

00:23:57 David

I think I think you're blowing.

00:23:58 David

Smoke yeah, OK.

00:23:59 James

I I did do this on change PT the other day because I was thinking about creating a video for this.

00:24:06 James

I said hey, Chad GPT I was like.

00:24:09 James

You help me design A login screen for a .net Maui application and it was like.

00:24:15 James

It like gave me directions.

00:24:16 James

I was like alright, you're gonna open up you're gonna open up a create new project yeah file add a new page.

00:24:22 James

Blog name it this login page dot XAML blah blah.

00:24:25 James

Here's your XAML like go into your app dot XAML, replace, blah blah blah with this page I was like cool, that's pretty good.

00:24:32 James

You had just had the buttons have the things, so it was pretty good.

00:24:35 James

Had some you know hard wired the.

00:24:37 James

Vents on it was like I.

00:24:38 James

Was interested like what would the what?

00:24:39 James

Would the code behind implementation look for this page?

00:24:41 James

Yeah, gtsi.

00:24:43 James

Here's a bunch of implementation I was like this.

00:24:45 James

I was like just right, I was like.

00:24:46 James

I don't mind boggling, right?

00:24:48 James

I didn't go further.

00:24:48 James

I'm ready to go further, like, uh, can you add a registration page?

00:24:51 James

How about a profile page and then I'm like I wanna be like can you call M Sal?

00:24:55 James

Can you call like msal.net and like do like I wanna see how far I can take it.

00:25:01 David

I think I think what you should do is be like can you can you show me what this page would look like in the coding style of James Montemagno?

00:25:12 David

And like see if it actually pulls something from your repo and uses that as the example that it gives you like.

00:25:19 David

I would not be because we write so many of these samples right like.

00:25:22 David

How much you know.

00:25:24 Matt

Very energetic code, I know.

00:25:26 Matt

I asked it recently that I wanted to do a health kit application to just report, you know, like how many miles I ran last year because I couldn't find any apps that would do that for.

00:25:30 James

Oh yeah.

00:25:35 Matt

Since though I have found it and it gave me completely wrong code because health gets kind of a, it's a weird API.

00:25:43 Matt

Eventually I figured it out, but so I asked it for first in C#, then I asked it in SWIFT and both cases it was completely wrong and finally I had to go read the documentation which was.

00:25:53 Matt

Even worse, but.

00:25:55 Matt

Yeah, I eventually got it to work, but.

00:25:57 David

Well, that's why GPT couldn't give it to you, because the documentation.

00:26:00 David

She was obscure.

00:26:03 David

Well, my pick of the pod which is not absolutely a real thing yet, but it's almost a real thing.

00:26:11 David

FF image loading right? This is a extremely popular library in the Xamarin space for managing images, whether it's loading.

00:26:22 David

SVG's at runtime. If it's for caching. If it's for all the different states of image loading, well, Jonathan **** of our .net Maui team, along with the help of Pedro, Jesus, and others, have been working on this.

00:26:41 David

And I'm believe you can go clone this repo that's on Rets GitHub and you can run the sample on .net Maui and she works. It's beautiful.

00:26:54 James

They should make this a community toolkit along with the barcode scanner.

00:26:57 David

Stuff so and it's going to need to.

00:26:59 David

It's going to need to live.

00:27:00 David

Somewhere, right, yeah?

00:27:01 James

OK.

00:27:02 David

OK, and because because the original library is is, to my understanding, no longer maintained, so it's going to need to live somewhere.

00:27:11 David

Maybe it's the community toolkit?

00:27:13 David

But I'm super excited because in in terms of the list of Nugent packages that folks depend upon and they say, hey, we're upgrading, what do we do about this Nugent package?

00:27:24 David

This one's on almost everybody's list. It certainly is a very popular one, so I'm excited to be able to share with everybody that there is a working.

00:27:33 David

Repo out there, publishing artifacts and things like that will come soon, maybe by the time you're listening to this I don't know, but if you've been looking for how do I do FF image on .net maui.net seven, here it is.

00:27:48 James

Yeah, and then uh.

00:27:48 David

It's coming.

00:27:50 James

There's also zebracrossing.net for Maui as well. That's that's a thing on John ***** repo. We'll we'll link to that.

00:27:56 James

That's he's been doing some work there.

00:27:58 James

Again, community toolkit, but also talking about another library that we talked about before.

00:28:03 James

Maybe I already talked about this, been a while since we podcast it, but version 3.0 we must not have because it came out two months ago.

00:28:10 James

Version 3.0.

00:28:11 James

Of the Bluetooth low energy plug in that I did some pull request to is out too.

00:28:17 James

There's a pre-release available with dot Donnelley support.

00:28:21 James

All four platforms.

00:28:23 James

I want a big give big shout out to the team that put up with all of my terrible code and pull requests.

00:28:31 James

It took forever.

00:28:32 James

It took like months because I you know I got just took forever for me to do day job back and forth, back and forth.

00:28:37 James

All this stuff, but they're adding down at 7 support now doing some stuff here blah blah blah, they're still.

00:28:41 James

Working on it, but I will say this that don't forget there's an amazing library called shiny that does all sorts of good stuff as well that you definitely want to take a look at that does like, you know your your background geolocation.

00:28:55 James

Geofencing it does Bluetooth, it does notifications, it does push notifications.

00:29:00 James

What doesn't it do authentication?

00:29:02 James

All those things I missed something.

00:29:03 David

I I saw today that today is Alan Ritchie's birthday Shiny happy birthday Alan. I think he's like 55 now 56. I mean he's getting up there.

00:29:09 James

Happy birthday, Alan.

00:29:18 Matt

Happy birthday happy birthday.

00:29:18 David

I'm teasing, he's not.

00:29:19 David

He's not at all.

00:29:21 James

Well thanks everyone for tuning in to the.net Maui podcast. You can go to .net mauipodcast.com if you find all of it, you can show us with your your friends, your colleagues, your coworkers or anyone else, and be sure to read all the show notes below and.

00:29:38 James

Thanks for listening.

00:29:39 James

Bye bye bye.